In the table below are links to Y-SNP calls for samples from Ice Age Europe.
Y haplogroups for more Ice Age European samples can be found in the table here. These results show that many of my beliefs about European genetic history were wrong. I thought that the Aurignacians belonged to Y haplogroup I, but the one Aurignacian sample was C1a2. I thought that the Gravettians belonged to R1, but four Gravettian samples were C1, I, IJ*, and C1a2. I thought that the Magdalenians were R1b, but two Magdalenian samples were I. These results also imply that my beliefs about Indo-European origins were wrong. I apologize for attacking others over their positions on these subjects.
Goyet Q116-1 Belgium Aurignacian C1a2-Z38842(xV86) calls Paglicci 133 Italy Gravettian C1-Z3998(xC1b) calls Kostenki 12 Russia Unassigned C1? calls Krems WA3 Austria Gravettian I calls Vestonice 13 Czechia Gravettian C1(xC1b) calls Vestonice 43 Czechia Gravettian IJ* calls Vestonice 16 Czechia Gravettian C1a2-V86 calls Hohle Fels 49 Germany Magdalenian I calls Goyet Q-2 Belgium Magdalenian I? calls Burkhardtshöhle Germany Magdalenian I calls Villabruna Italy Epigravettian R1b1a-L754 calls Rochedane France Epipaleolithic pre-I2a1a2-S21825 calls Falkenstein Germany Mesolithic I2a2a1-CTS616 calls Chaudardes 1 France Mesolithic I2 calls Berry-au-Bac France Mesolithic I2a1b-M423 calls
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Take a look at the full table you will find when you press “calls”
This is interesting and worth thinking more than twice. Things might not have gone as some have thought. Some = Historians, Geologists and Archaeologists.
So, you were right all along about R1b in Europe?
Autosomal admixture and phenotype SNPs please!
So, you were right all along about R1b in Europe?
No, I wasn’t. See the comments I added above.
Autosomal admixture and phenotype SNPs please!
I will.
Regardless, Villabruna was Epigravettian and was R1b1a. Even if modern European R1b came from the steppe, who’s to say steppe R1b didn’t come from the Epigravettian culture, given Samara HG was a mix of WHG and ANE? Perhaps you didn’t get the exact specifics, but R1b1a is still there, in Western Europe, thousands of years before any Indo-European migrations. From the paper it seems Villabruna was a pure WHG and clusters with Loshbour/La Brana/etc, who didn’t have any exotic autosomal ancestry.
hey. you are not going to comisurate are you?.
Everybody is up to a point wrong when it comes to these Dna infering from an hand full of examples to extrapolate over several hundred thousand scatter over thousand of miles.
So,,, get back on the saddle and move on.
you are not going to comisurate are you?
Not at all. It always feels good to correct errors in one’s thinking and move closer to the truth.
Keep up the work, you have your admirers. !
Will do, thanks.
Regardless, Villabruna was Epigravettian and was R1b1a. Even if modern European R1b came from the steppe, who’s to say steppe R1b didn’t come from the Epigravettian culture, given Samara HG was a mix of WHG and ANE? Perhaps you didn’t get the exact specifics, but R1b1a is still there, in Western Europe, thousands of years before any Indo-European migrations. From the paper it seems Villabruna was a pure WHG and clusters with Loshbour/La Brana/etc, who didn’t have any exotic autosomal ancestry.
All true.
Thanks for these, and well said.